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I agree in a way. As almighty as Penn State football has been, it's really only in Pennsylvania, which reminds me a lot of SMU and its own fallout from the death penalty. Any major sanctions on Penn St. will have a very, very dramatic impact on its ability to recover within a decade or two. Conversely, a school like USC, Miami, or Alabama may get hit hard by sanctions, but won't nearly have the devastating effect as we're currently witnessing at USC and previously witnessed at Alabama.

I'm sure you're right, RD, and you addressed the point I was trying to make. The USC's, Miami's and Alabama's recruit nationally, and produce the "show" athletes that go into the NFL (QBs, WRs, CBs and Safeties) that get noticed, bring fame, etc. Penn State produces NFL players, of course, but they're rarely "loud" players that gain huge fandom. Additionally, as you said, Penn State, much like Texas, recruits almost its entire class in market.

For Penn State, the fear I'd be worried about is what if the shame becomes so bad that those Pennsylvania tough HS athletes start looking toward the other Big 10 schools rather than PSU. If that's the case, it could be a death penalty situation even without the death penalty.

Pin High. I completely agree with you. If this had happened at Arizona we would be replacing everyone down to the janitors.

The rest of the world is completely repulsed. The problem is the inability of the locals who have had such success there to step aside while some one cleans up the mess. Certain locals donating record amounts of money to the university and are hoping the problem will just be forgotten. Like Gary says, the same would be true at Alabama or certain other schools where football is bigger than life.

My opinion is that most Pennsylvanians are just as repulsed as we are. The core problem exits at the university. I also hope the death penalty, in some form, is put in place.

And the report has been released. Looks like the Department of Education is even going after them! Love the fact the JoePa's family is still saying that he did what he was suppose to do. His family is in denial! SO sad!!

I do not want to stand on soap box but simply put if the NCAA does not give Penn State the Death Sentence it will expose the NCAA as a pure money grubbing garbage machine to its core.

Penn State as an institution needs to be punished from head to toe and its Alumni should be the ones making sure it happens.

I know all about glass houses and not throwing stones, but this is nothing short of sick.

The lives of many families have been destroyed and Penn State University is to blame for that and its football team was the epicenter.

Wato, you and others posting here are 100% correct... the NCAA needs to deliver PSU a severe slapping.

More importantly, PSU alums and the people of the Pennsylvania need to demand justice....

RickyK please go and stuff a sock in little Paternos mouth for us.... He not only needs to quit covering for the enabler JoePA, but he should finally issue an apology and deep regret for all the suffering heaped upon the innocent victims by joepa's turning a blind eye for the sake of the FB Program....

I don't know what is more disgusting, joepa's complete disregard for the kids and failure to be a true leader or his family's continuing effort to shift any blame or responsibility anywhere but where it truly lays... Sandusky was not hired by or working for the PSU Pres, VP or AD... he was hired by joepa and when the Pres,VP and AD found out they were ready to report it all but joepa suggested that they deal with it in quiet less intrusive manner.... Sandisky was allowed to remain there for an additional FOURTEEN years, at joepa's pleasure to protect the FB program and coach's reputations... both of which have been irreparably damaged forever...

So let me get this straight, the kids, who had nothing what so ever to do with it, should be the ones to suffer. The Fans who had nothing to do with it should be the ones to suffer. Rubbish, everyone involved has been fired. The NCAA which stands for Nobody Cares About Athletes, just loves to act tough and on the ball for a PR agenda. This is a crime not a recruiting violation, it should be handled by the legal system. Everyone involved should go to Jail, including the Janitors that didn't report it and all the higher-ups that tried to cover it up. Anyone who covers up for pedophiles should go to jail. It doesn't matter if they ware a Penn State polo or a mitre to work. Oh, but no, the NCAA should come down hard on the kids, and Fans. If you want to make sure every athletic department plays by the rules, don't punish the kids unless they are the ones involved, but start taking a percentage of the athletics departments revenue. If the NCAA started confiscating revenue from the TV, Tickets and Merchandise, you would see college football clean up in the hell of hurry.

I have posted a rather lon g post on the Blue board which any can read and owuld appreciate any fedback.

Jim

Look at it this way, if there is nobody left at Penn State who was involved, why is there shame and disrepute on the institution. Is anybody willing to blame Angela Merkel for WWII. Justice can only be served in this case by putting conspirators to the cover up in Jail. The NCAA should have no role here.

King,

Some of the BOT at Penn State is still actively involved..........and on top of that the institution as a whole essentially was covering up information for almost 15 years.

In essense the institution was more concerned with keeping their cash cow on its feet then do something with honor.

15 years. 15 years. 15 years.

They allowed lives to be destroyed for this lenght of time.

IMO, they should now be punished for this.

This postlikely will not be popular. As indicated I am blacklisted at the Pennn State site for 247 ( damn vbunch of nazi's), but what theheckif at my age I cannot be toltally blunt and honest I guess I never will. Things I observed iis firwst I feel for the good fans and players at Penn State who will suffer in this, but I have no symphathy for the Paterno family as Joe was the second most culpable person (along with Mrs Sandusky ) in this story.

My views on going forward:
1, Joes pension should be put in trust for the victims as compensation for his part in this aided and abbetted by his family. I am sick of hearing Jay Paterno and his lame rants.

2. Anyone who believes Jerry Sandusky first start as a pedophile in 1998 knloows nothing about pedophiles as they do not start the pattern in their mid to late 50's but much younger. I assure yhou there are hundreds if not thousands of other victims out there who have been too ashamed to come forward. Pedophiles profile their victims to pick those witoout fathers and hide behind institutions like the Catholic Church, Scouts or the Y among others where they gain the trust of parents and the community to find their prey. My first exposure to this was in 1956 when a fifth grade teacher at my school and assistant scout master abused 3 boys in our troop at Peter Howell school inTucson. He was also an elder at our church and went to prison.Treatment of pedophiles almost never works.

3. There is no way that he could have continued doing this without the help of these four powerful men who iwllfully broke the law to protect the university and it King football.

4. Some blame the janitors but if they would have come forward they would have been fired and not believed. Just as the mother of the victim was not believed in 1998 and just as Bishop Green of Tucson did not believe victims in Tucson who acused Monsignor Robert Troupia of yuma and then Tucson of 20 counts of sexual molestation staarting in the the 1970's . The good Monsignor was known by Yumma police as the chicken hawk. In 1991 Bishop Moreno removed him from ministry and sent hi,m tpo Maryland but the church and Cardinal Ratzingeer who is now Pope did not defrock him until 2005 and he never went to prison because of statute of limitations. Still today a Cardinal in Philadelhia who died in January 2012 waas covering up these crimes and Mmonsignor who helped cover it up is going to prison for 14 years. Cover up in high places still goes on but God will p;punish Bishops and Cardinals and Popes as well as others.

5. NO punisshment by the NCAA nwill be adequate for this but maybe the DOE can ste[p in and punish the University so sseverely it will never happen again at Penn State. Closing the university for a few years and then reopening with no AD would be a powerful message.

Unfortuately we cannot stop all of this nonsense but maybe we can stomp on those who abuse and those who protect them so hard thaat we can reduce this kind of crap

Thanks for listening. As you can see I am passionate on this issue and issues concerning the poor, sick, homeless etc andis why I take communion to the hospital and hospice several days a week.

Have a Blessed Night

Jim

From the strictly interpreted jurisdictional limits of NCAA cognizance, this will be viewed as "lack of institutional control", so don't look for too much in the way of NCAA punishment for the program itself. This doesn't involve recruits, the former HC is dead, the staff has changed over, and the main animal is in prison. I seriously doubt the NCAA could or would mete out the death penalty or suspend football at PSU under these conditions. I don't even think the NCAA has rules or jurisdiction specific to this mess.

The main thrust of punishment for PSU will come from criminal indictments and punishments, then the civil suits and cash awards. These punishments will be the far more severe, and justifiably so.