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  • Sani Fuimaono and Aiulua Fanene are both on LDS Missions and will be gone two seasons. Fuimaono made his intentions known during last season, Fanene is a mild surprise. Rich Rodgriguez indicated that both have said they intend to return.

    Josh Robbins has likely played his last game thanks to a back injury. He is no longer with the team.

    Johnathan McKnight will be limited this spring. Mickey Baucus is out for spring after back surgery and Jack Baucus will also be limited.

    Editor-In-Chief of Wildcat Sport Report and co-host of the Arizona football and basketball pre and postgame shows on 1290 KCUB.

    BradAllis

  • Somebody give us some good news! Reading today's board we are very limited at QB. Our players aren't strong/out of shape. Now we've got players not participating in Spring drills.

    I'm really hoping the players we have are healthy, STAY healthy and that some of last year's redshirts and some of this year's incoming freshman are ready to contribute. We need to pray Scott is able to play every game this year.

    CTK3wildcat

  • I get yelled at every time I say this but, I think these kids that go on missions are a menace. If a kid left for any other reason we would all be saying how terrible it is to walk out on their teammates and schoolwork. Oh, But because religion is involved, its just makes every thing A-OK. Well it doesn't, the University has made a major investment in these kids and they need to honor that agreement. Free education is no joke in this country. Furthermore, I know kids who have gone on a mission and they were constantly beaten, robbed and abused by the bad elements of what ever third world shithole they happen to be in. These kids will get sent somewhere terrible, for sure. They don't have connections like Mitt Romney who spent his mission hanging out in Paris. So they are going to go drum up tithe money from people who live on a dollar a day. Trust me its not about saving souls because the they can just baptize you against your will after you die.

    And before anyone says I'm being bigoted towards LDS people, Stop it, I would say the same thing for any church, going to some one else's culture and trying to impose yours is a Crime, not a virtue.

    A Rose Bowl before I die Please!!!!

    King of Daleks

  • They're going out to help people....for free. They aren't getting anything from the University while they're there. When they come back there is no guarantee they get their scholi back. If they do come back they are more mature emotionally. Why would anyone attack someone over that? Btw, judging by BYU's success playing 24yoa men vs 18-20yoa boys...I'd say its effective.

    Kainoakat

  • King of Daleks said...

    I get yelled at every time I say this but, I think these kids that go on missions are a menace. If a kid left for any other reason we would all be saying how terrible it is to walk out on their teammates and schoolwork. Oh, But because religion is involved, its just makes every thing A-OK. Well it doesn't, the University has made a major investment in these kids and they need to honor that agreement. Free education is no joke in this country. Furthermore, I know kids who have gone on a mission and they were constantly beaten, robbed and abused by the bad elements of what ever third world shithole they happen to be in. These kids will get sent somewhere terrible, for sure. They don't have connections like Mitt Romney who spent his mission hanging out in Paris. So they are going to go drum up tithe money from people who live on a dollar a day. Trust me its not about saving souls because the they can just baptize you against your will after you die.

    And before anyone says I'm being bigoted towards LDS people, Stop it, I would say the same thing for any church, going to some one else's culture and trying to impose yours is a Crime, not a virtue.

    When we signed these guys we knew they were LDS and the mission was very likely going to happen...

    It is the risk of signing LDS players....

    I agree though it is disrupting to continuity especially when we are at such a shallow level right now...but sign LDS players at that is what is expected....

    This post was edited by beat oregon on 3/1/2012 at 9:53 PM

    beat oregon

  • Daleks that's the stupid post I have ever seen on this board. Keep telling urself u aren't a bigot if it makes u sleep better at night, but u are. Calling kids out because of their religion, is just pathetic, get a life man, really.

    A degree from Arizona gets u into graduate school, a degree from asu gets u into high school.

    Aricat3

  • I don't think Daleks comments are anything other than politically incorrect - but they are not 'bigoted', at least not towards LDS. he was not denigrating them because of religion but rather because they cannot participate for 2 years. He has every right as a fan to be bigoted towards players who abandon the program for two years.

    Having said that, I don't happen to agree with him on the specific point.

    Didn't we send a LB to the NFL who had been on a mission? I think the upside of getting far more mature players (physically and mentally) is huge and has been well documented that these players are often highly successful upon returning.

    And seriously.... unless Carey, Buckner, Bondurant or Bilal (oops guess he's gone anyway) are leaving, who cares? It's not like we have a difference maker at any other position.

    "Arizona has no tradition" - Bill Walsh "We have a tradition of kicking Bill Walsh's ass" - Teddy Bruschi

    wineknow

  • One of the best offensive lines we had at Arizona came during the Tomey years when he was stockpiling 25 and 26 years olds like Ryan Turley and Jose Portilla, followed by Edwin Mulitalo. The only thing I have to say about it is I don't understand how they decide when to go. I don't think I've ever seen an LDS kid go on a mission after finishing college and I wonder why not? If it is in part a sacrifice of the comforts of life, it would be more meaningful then I would think before embarking on the earnings phase of life? Or is it supposed to be part of the learning process? Don't know. Interesting that some take a mission and many others do not.

    rickyk

  • rickyk said...

    One of the best offensive lines we had at Arizona came during the Tomey years when he was stockpiling 25 and 26 years olds like Ryan Turley and Jose Portilla, followed by Edwin Mulitalo. The only thing I have to say about it is I don't understand how they decide when to go. I don't think I've ever seen an LDS kid go on a mission after finishing college and I wonder why not? If it is in part a sacrifice of the comforts of life, it would be more meaningful then I would think before embarking on the earnings phase of life? Or is it supposed to be part of the learning process? Don't know. Interesting that some take a mission and many others do not.

    totally guessing on this one as I am not LDS...but they tend to marry quite young and start families young...so getting the mission trip over with before marriage is probably a priority....

    might explain why they are willing to disrupt college and everything else...

    again it is the risk that comes with recruiting LDS athletes and the program knows it....

    beat oregon

  • I know its unpopular opinion but what I was saying is, I don't really agree with the idea of Missionary work in the first place. That goes for any Religion or culture for that matter. Every person is entitled to their own culture and be proud of it. Its not racist for me to be proud of my Irish and Norwegian culture. But when you have people from one culture try and change someone else's, I think that is a sinister thing, the Polynesian people have a very rich long history and it’s a shame it has been hijacked by the convicted con man Joe Smith. That goes for all the other indigenous cultures that Christian Missionaries have ruined over the last 500 years or so.

    That is what bothers me when people fall all over Tim Tebow and say what a great guy he is, and he is, a good teammate and a good citizen, but his pension for trying to change other people into his own belief system is a sinister and terrible thing in my option.

    Sorry, I try ready hard not talk about anything on here but football.

    A Rose Bowl before I die Please!!!!

    King of Daleks

  • Now that, is what I would call politically incorrect. But had me laughing my ass off.

    rickyk

  • King of Daleks said...

    I know its unpopular opinion but what I was saying is, I don't really agree with the idea of Missionary work in the first place. That goes for any Religion or culture for that matter. Every person is entitled to their own culture and be proud of it. Its not racist for me to be proud of my Irish and Norwegian culture. But when you have people from one culture try and change someone else's, I think that is a sinister thing, the Polynesian people have a very rich long history and it’s a shame it has been hijacked by the convicted con man Joe Smith. That goes for all the other indigenous cultures that Christian Missionaries have ruined over the last 500 years or so.

    That is what bothers me when people fall all over Tim Tebow and say what a great guy he is, and he is, a good teammate and a good citizen, but his pension for trying to change other people into his own belief system is a sinister and terrible thing in my option.

    Sorry, I try ready hard not talk about anything on here but football.

    Poli Sci guy can't refuse....

    The presumption that indigenous peoples were somehow better off without external influence is PC B.S., IMO. There are cultures all over the world that would still be living in huts, not have antibiotics, clean water or food preservation or ... WINE!

    The Polynesians for example, were extremely primitive until the 19th century. They had an almost retarded language with an extremely limited vocabulary, no schools, no medicine, religious beliefs that included cannibalism....

    That does not excuse any of the atrocities one group did to another - but most every culture has consistently fought wars among themselves, with neighbors and with people from across the ocean.

    Religion is no different. Christian and Islamic missionaries brought ideas and education from other places, albeit with bad religion. Existing religions were no better; human sacrifice, tightly closed social structures with limited freedoms etc....

    Ultimately the exchange of ideas, cultures and development of relationships is universal and merely a development of the social evolution of the human race. It has all sorts of problems (like any other part of our evolution) but it is unavoidable.

    Gotta get back to Facebook now....

    This post was edited by wineknow on 3/3/2012 at 9:04 AM

    "Arizona has no tradition" - Bill Walsh "We have a tradition of kicking Bill Walsh's ass" - Teddy Bruschi

    wineknow

  • Wineknow, lets take for example Native Americans, they rightfully are bitter about what was done to them and talk about how the white man took their land and destroyed their culture but then, Sunday morning comes around and they go pray to the white mans's God. Now what kind of weirdness is that. As far as primitive cultures VS, the Modern world, I'm not suggesting they should live in the same conditions they did in the past, although their way of life is sustainable for thousands of years and ours is not, I'm saying their culture should be allowed to evolve into the modern world with their history and Tradition intact with out all the negative aspects of the Judeo-Christian ethic. I am good friends with several people who consider themselves practicing Druids but they have real jobs and cars and no Wickermen are burned in their front yard. For me, I identify Culturally with Irish and other Celtic traditions but before St. Patrick came and ruined the place with his outside Roman Faith. I believe that if the ancient pagan world in the west had been allowed to evolve and slowly shed its more brutal aspects, we would be left with a much more egalitarian society today, and perhaps we would even be many hundreds of years more technologically advanced than we are now.

    So, if the LDS kids or Tim Tebow or anyone else would like to go somewhere and bring medicine, and teach them how to sustain their food supply through modern methods, that’s Great, good for them. But when they try and change the core of the culture, and impose ours that was dreamed up 2500 years ago by Judean desert dwellers, or in the case of the LDS kids, 180 years ago by a con man from Vermont, those people are committing a crime in my opinion.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by King of Daleks on 3/3/2012 at 9:56 AM

    A Rose Bowl before I die Please!!!!

    King of Daleks

  • Isn't this a sports blog?

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by beat oregon on 3/3/2012 at 1:46 PM

    beat oregon

  • I'm not LDS but I believe the missions are usually between 17-19. I don't believe it is a hardline requirement, but most believe in it.

    Kainoakat

  • beat oregon said...

    Isn't this a sports blog?

    Sorry beat oregon, you must have us confused with the brian dead jocks on some other site. The erudite, urbane and keen observers on this site are in fact a salon of ideas, opinions and solutions to all of the worlds malady's. In fact, I believe our name is changing to 'Wildcat Think Tank' and we will soon have multiple boards for Molecular Gastronomy, Post Modern Art, Jazz, Keynesian Economics and my personal favorite; an Adam Smith/Alexis De Tocqueville/Emerson/Thoreau board discussing early 19th century American economics within the framework of transcendentalism. That one is sure to ignite some intense arguments...and stir the pot!

    "Arizona has no tradition" - Bill Walsh "We have a tradition of kicking Bill Walsh's ass" - Teddy Bruschi

    wineknow

  • wineknow said...

    Sorry beat oregon, you must have us confused with the brian dead jocks on some other site. The erudite, urbane and keen observers on this site are in fact a salon of ideas, opinions and solutions to all of the worlds malady's. In fact, I believe our name is changing to 'Wildcat Think Tank' and we will soon have multiple boards for Molecular Gastronomy, Post Modern Art, Jazz, Keynesian Economics and my personal favorite; an Adam Smith/Alexis De Tocqueville/Emerson/Thoreau board discussing early 19th century American economics within the framework of transcendentalism. That one is sure to ignite some intense arguments...and stir the pot!

    shrugIf a football gets thrown in Vilna does anyone see it?

    wato

  • And now our culture is trying to destroy indigenous European cultures by introducing American football to them on many levels.

    Oh, the horror.

    And not only the NFL, coaches from every level are in on a ground floor teaching Europeans of all nationalities the intricacies of our greatest Sunday based religion. Jeff Scurran is on his mission right now in Italy deceiving Italians, having them switch their allegiance from a rounded object of worship to one that is shaped like an oblate speriod.

    Where all this will end, no one quite knows, but though the intentions seem pure, it is probably true that Europeans will someday spend most Sundays swilling weak, light beer and munching nacho chips.

    The degrading of civilization is upon us!

    BlkMtn

  • wineknow said...

    Sorry beat oregon, you must have us confused with the brian dead jocks on some other site. The erudite, urbane and keen observers on this site are in fact a salon of ideas, opinions and solutions to all of the worlds malady's. In fact, I believe our name is changing to 'Wildcat Think Tank' and we will soon have multiple boards for Molecular Gastronomy, Post Modern Art, Jazz, Keynesian Economics and my personal favorite; an Adam Smith/Alexis De Tocqueville/Emerson/Thoreau board discussing early 19th century American economics within the framework of transcendentalism. That one is sure to ignite some intense arguments...and stir the pot!

    I think I just hurledpukeface

    beat oregon