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  • M Troll said...

    The problem, sir, is that you have missed my point. I give up. You've worn me down. I will say only this, and then move along.. This class will most certainly play in a Rose Bowl.

    Oh. One more thing.
    Bear Down!!!

    "Why not Arizona? Why not us? Why can't we win it all?''

    M Troll

  • M Troll said...

    Oh. One more thing. Bear Down!!!

    There it is! Nice post Troll clap

    I do see Arizona winning in the future. I don't exactly know how yet, but I like the air of confidence and continuity within this coaching staff and I like the hunger in a lot of these recruits.

    In the end, football is about 11 guys working together on the gridiron and Stoops' biggest weakness was bringing a cohesiveness to the stadium on Saturday's. My guess is Rodriguez is and will be a better game day coach and that alone should translate into victories. If the team gels behind him, it could translate into many victories.

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  • The fact that this staff of Coaches are all familiar with the system puts them light-years ahead of where Stoops ever was.
    They are not going to experiment, they have a system and will run with it. Everyone on the team has a shot at starting and getting to see some action.

    There are no favorites with the new staff. Demonstrate in practice what you can do on the field come game time, persevere.

    Stoops I believe played somewhat to his favorites players, to guys who had been in the program a long time and stuck with him through the hard times, and there were plenty of those. I do not believe the Stoops always put the best players out on the field.

    He rarely did a running back by committee and the program suffered because of it. Clearly Kadeem should have seen more playing time from week one.

    Cohesiveness, Direction, Vision, Purpose, Unity, Leadership, Dedication, Sacrifice, Commitment, "Team Spirit", will get this Football program to The Roses.

    AZWILDCATS

  • If you go purely by "stars" then this class is below the P12 average. But try to understand that recruiting services are not exact. Harper is an explosive, fast athlete that Oregon was after hard. Capers is the same but was hurt most of his SR year. Allen was upgraded to three stars. Hemmila was a four star, as was Parade AA Kelley, both got graded down to three stars for whatever reason.

    The other thing is, we didn't sell out and recruit 8 JC's. We don't have major holes in or depth chart like asu does after graduating 30 guys. In two years asu is going to have to hit the JC's again.

    Kainoakat

  • Kainoakat said...

    If you go purely by "stars" then this class is below the P12 average. But try to understand that recruiting services are not exact. Harper is an explosive, fast athlete that Oregon was after hard. Capers is the same but was hurt most of his SR year. Allen was upgraded to three stars. Hemmila was a four star, as was Parade AA Kelley, both got graded down to three stars for whatever reason.

    The other thing is, we didn't sell out and recruit 8 JC's. We don't have major holes in or depth chart like asu does after graduating 30 guys. In two years asu is going to have to hit the JC's again.

    I think it was actually 9 but who's counting. In 2 years Graham will be at his next dream job, so for him it makes sense to get as many JC's(quick fixes) as possible to make him look like a good coach for a season so he can get a better offer at a bigger school.

    This post was edited by Beermancats on 2/1/2012 at 11:19 PM

    Beermancats

  • Beermancats said...

    Exactly!

    Coach Rich Rodriguez response to why Espn ranks Arizona's recruiting class last in the Pac 12:

    " I've seen 4and 5 star guys that couldn't play dead in a western, and I've seen 1 and 2 star guys become all-americans."

    Hmm, did he see film on Holmes?

    nukengr

  • nukengr said...

    Hmm, did he see film on Holmes?

    Yeah - Holmes in an Arizona Uniform - HAHA!

    AZWILDCATS

  • Beermancats said...

    I think it was actually 9 but who's counting. In 2 years Graham will be at his next dream job, so for him it makes sense to get as many JC's(quick fixes) as possible to make him look like a good coach for a season so he can get a better offer at a bigger school.

    Graham's dream job is UTEP? Good to know....

    "Arizona has no tradition" - Bill Walsh "We have a tradition of kicking Bill Walsh's ass" - Teddy Bruschi

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  • wineknow said...

    Graham's dream job is UTEP? Good to know....

    Lol

    Beermancats

  • Louis Holmes was a 3 and 4 star recruit while we were recruiting him, until . . . Pete Carroll offered, then he was a 5 star.

    Immediately prior to the Stoops termination I was looking at our commit list and we had 19 commits, two 4 star and 17 3 stars. As of now we have 24 signees of which, 1 is a 4 star, 14 are 3 star and 9 are 2 star. Who here wants Stoops and his recruits back instead of what we have?

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  • bpwildcat said...

    Louis Holmes was a 3 and 4 star recruit while we were recruiting him, until . . . Pete Carroll offered, then he was a 5 star.

    Immediately prior to the Stoops termination I was looking at our commit list and we had 19 commits, two 4 star and 17 3 stars. As of now we have 24 signees of which, 1 is a 4 star, 14 are 3 star and 9 are 2 star. Who here wants Stoops and his recruits back instead of what we have?

    Not me, you are in the minority sir.

    Beermancats

  • bpwildcat said...

    Who here wants Stoops and his recruits back instead of what we have?

    loco

    This post was edited by TewaWildcaT on 2/2/2012 at 2:21 PM

    Time to nut up or shut up

    TewaWildcaT

  • As a Oregon fan, I can say I fully expect to see Rodriguez take your program to a level it hasnt seen since Dennis Northcutt was playing WR. Ill be the first to admit that I dont know a whole lot about AZ football history, but other than a couple years ago, that seemed to have been your pinnacle? I might be saying something different if you guys ended up beating us in double OT a couple years ago. You guys were soooo close to becoming an elite program in the Pac10.

    You guys can draw a lot of parallels from Oregon as far as the type of recruits that you will begin to recruit. The speed guys are ALWAYS underrated because they usually lack size. While guys like DeAnthony helped us tremendously last year, everyone forgets LaMike was a 3* recruit and Barner was a 3* recruited to play DB. RichRod has proven he can do more with less given the complete backing from his administration, which he didn't get at Michigan. Trust this guy...he has a proven track record recruiting the right guys for his system. While stars always look good on signing day, guys that work in his system wont always carry those high ratings. its guys like Bryan Harper that will get you there(I really wanted that guy, GREAT get).

    I originally came over to your board today just because you are one of three Pac12 teams on the 247 network and starting reading this post. I want you guys to remember that we've had tremendous success in Oregon recruiting those under the radar guys and you guys will too, I just know it. While Oregon does have the advantage of facilities and Phil Knight, you guys have something we will never have and will always hold us back -- LOCATION. You guys are located in a primo spot and that is such a big thing when it comes to getting these kids to come and Oregon continually fights year after year.

    So I guess what I'm saying is hang in there. Have faith that RichRod is one of the great minds in college football, and while it may start slow next year, hang in there because success won't be far away. In college football its the coach that is 10 times more important than any recruiting class. The coach brings success and success brings recruits.

    Best of luck in 2012 and beyond.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Bowerz101 on 2/2/2012 at 2:37 PM

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  • Bowerz101 said...

    As a Oregon fan, I can say I fully expect to see Rodriguez take your program to a level it hasnt seen since Dennis Northcutt was playing WR. Ill be the first to admit that I dont know a whole lot about AZ football history, but other than a couple years ago, that seemed to have been your pinnacle? I might be saying something different if you guys ended up beating us in double OT a couple years ago. You guys were soooo close to becoming an elite program in the Pac10.

    You guys can draw a lot of parallels from Oregon as far as the type of recruits that you will begin to recruit. The speed guys are ALWAYS underrated because they usually lack size. While guys like DeAnthony helped us tremendously last year, everyone forgets LaMike was a 3* recruit and Barner was a 3* recruited to play DB. RichRod has proven he can do more with less given the complete backing from his administration, which he didn't get at Michigan. Trust this guy...he has a proven track record recruiting the right guys for his system. While stars always look good on signing day, guys that work in his system wont always carry those high ratings. its guys like Bryan Harper that will get you there(I really wanted that guy, GREAT get).

    I originally came over to your board today just because you are one of three Pac12 teams on the 247 network and starting reading this post. I want you guys to remember that we've had tremendous success in Oregon recruiting those under the radar guys and you guys will too, I just know it. While Oregon does have the advantage of facilities and Phil Knight, you guys have something we will never have and will always hold us back -- LOCATION. You guys are located in a primo spot and that is such a big thing when it comes to getting these kids to come and Oregon continually fights year after year.

    So I guess what I'm saying is hang in there. Have faith that RichRod is one of the great minds in college football, and while it may start slow next year, hang in there because success won't be far away. In college football its the coach that is 10 times more important than any recruiting class. The coach brings success and success brings recruits.

    Best of luck in 2012 and beyond.

    Welcome Bowerz. Great post and I totally agree.

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