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  • Are you kidding me? This is from an article today, take a look at what Matt Scott said:

    The addition of a quarterback run game should make the athletic Scott even more dangerous this fall.

    "It's going to be really hard, with the backs we have and me running, for any defense to cover us," he said. "I'm not even sure it's possible."

    Not sure it's possible? What? From a QB in a new system that has never been run at Arizona. Wha?

    BlkMtn

  • well, he definitely sounds like a glass-half-full type of person.

    Bear Down Arizona

    Ben J

  • Sincerely, Oregon.

    Guess who the Chipper learned his offense from? RR. Guess who is unstoppable on offense? Oregon. Scott might be a little confident, but I'd say history and scheme support the possibility. UO plugs in new guys every year and has averaged a top 4 offense every year Chip has been there...including his first year.

    Kainoakat

  • Don't get me wrong. I like his confidence, but ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

    I know very well that the author, inventor, developer etc etc of the offense is our coach.

    Kelly just learned, borrowed, stole the whole scheme.

    But an unstoppable group of players from the same team that won 4 games last year?

    Let your play do the talking.

    BlkMtn

  • We return 5 starting OL's, this offense is tailor made for a run/throw QB like Scott and RB's like Carey and particularly Jenkins. I don't think its that shocking. Different strokes I guess.

    Kainoakat

  • You guys don't see what Blckmtn is saying here? He is absolutely right - this is prime bulletin board material for the first game. After the first decent defense shuts us down, it won't matter, but what a dumb thing to say.

    Our returning 5 OL's got shredded last year and couldn't block their way out of a paper bag. In a nutshell; they completely suck (see: rushing yardage). I can see Karey being a decent back in the right system, but he's too small to be a dominate, all pac-12, Reggie Bush/Clarence Farmer type. We have not had any sort of offense other than the; " you guys go out and Nick look for the open guy but don't ever throw past the first down marker" offense we ran the last two years.

    RR's offenses don't click the first year, nowhere that he has been has that ever happened. 1st year starting QB, the worst OL in the PAC-12, marginal talent at RB, average and largely unproven talent at receiver, no TE, and a defense that will likely have them starting at the 20 on most series.... yea this is not going to be a glorious offensive year.

    This post was edited by wineknow on 4/22/2012 at 1:59 AM

    "Arizona has no tradition" - Bill Walsh "We have a tradition of kicking Bill Walsh's ass" - Teddy Bruschi

    wineknow

  • Call me crazy, but I like a confident QB. Reading Tweets by Jenkins, Carey, Bachman, Quinn, Fischer, and Mobley about the new coaches and systems leads me to believe they have alot of confidence right now that we are on the right path. From all appearances, they've bought in. To me, that's a good thing. Bulletin board? Fine...that just means they have to back it up. Better that than a team playing tentative or scared.

    Kainoakat

  • Kainoakat said...

    Call me crazy, but I like a confident QB. Reading Tweets by Jenkins, Carey, Bachman, Quinn, Fischer, and Mobley about the new coaches and systems leads me to believe they have alot of confidence right now that we are on the right path. From all appearances, they've bought in. To me, that's a good thing. Bulletin board? Fine...that just means they have to back it up. Better that than a team playing tentative or scared.

    I agree.

    My concern is with the defense that allows such high numbers to be scored in spring scrimmages.

    Or maybe the offense is that good?

    To be continued...

    This post was edited by Ashton on 4/22/2012 at 3:52 PM

    Ashton

  • Kainoakat said...

    Call me crazy, but I like a confident QB. Reading Tweets by Jenkins, Carey, Bachman, Quinn, Fischer, and Mobley about the new coaches and systems leads me to believe they have alot of confidence right now that we are on the right path. From all appearances, they've bought in. To me, that's a good thing. Bulletin board? Fine...that just means they have to back it up. Better that than a team playing tentative or scared.

    I completely agree. There is nothing better than having a team that expects to win. Complete confidence is a rare thing to fin. When its in your leader, the quarterback, that's perfect. If its really there, we will be fun to watch. When you expect plays to be successful when everybody does their job, it is much easier than when you hope plays will be successful.

    Bulletin board fodder is good for a couple of plays, but when its show and tell time, the real players emerge and only the fans remember unless the statement was player specific about someone else on the other team.

    I can't imagine Scott would say that unless the coaches and the unique plays have him believing that. They are going to make mistakes, but confident players and coaches will figure it out and they will fix it. They will also shoulder the blame because they feel responsible to efffect the necessary changes. It also means that Scott is beginning to understand his reads in an offense where so many decisions are made after the ball is snapped.

    That statement has me jazzed up about the possibilites. Most seem to feel its going to be a tough first year. I'm not aware any of those games have already been played. I'm not buying football tickets just because its my duty. Maybe I'm just naive.

    rdotrbennett

  • Ashton said...

    I agree.

    My concern is with the defense that allows such high numbers to be scored in Spring scrimmages.

    Or maybe the offense is that good?

    To be continued...

    Defense faces a lot more changes from game to game than offense and one can only hope this new coach knows what he's doing, Hall going down was a real bummer.

    However, defenses playing us the first time won't find it easy either if we execute. RR has used this system awhile, but it has a much higher number of wrinkles than most offenses. That's particularly true if Scott gets it. My pessimism of the defense could be greatly overshadowed by a UA offense that is rolling. Scott appears to have the perfect skills for the offense. The question will be whether he actually understands it. I like the fact he's confident about it outwardly.

    rdotrbennett

  • And I agree again.

    The "thing" that stands out for me is that the Wildcat optimists are back in the same position as last year. That our offense will rule or 'rue' the day while playing with a mediocre or worse defense.

    I'm just not convinced that we can tackle or "de-cleat" other players with our current personnel w/o suffering injury. I understand the defense schema is complex, but is our current personnel up to understanding it when maybe it requires basic defensive fundamentals first?

    Ashton

  • Ashton said...

    And I agree again.

    The "thing" that stands out for me is that the Wildcat optimists are back in the same position as last year. That our offense will rule or 'rue' the day while playing with a mediocre or worse defense.

    I'm just not convinced that we can tackle or "de-cleat" other players with our current personnel w/o suffering injury. I understand the defense schema is complex, but is our current personnel up to understanding it when maybe it requires basic defensive fundamentals first?

    Watching the spring hand videos the thing that stood out to me was how fast Scott got the ball out, and how decisive he was in his throws. That's comfort/confidence in the system, or presnap reads. Either way, he was obviously successful.

    I think our defense has some issues, notably a completely new system. But as Fischer noted, anyone can blitz at any time depending on they're reads. Once the players get familiar with their assignments imho this is going to be a difficult D to play. Probably the complete opposite of Stoops' 4-3. Imho its going to be high risk/high reward, blitz heavy pressure defense. At this level, I think that's a good thing.

    Kainoakat

  • Is barwis the s and c coach?

    DFWBuck

  • Barwis is not the strength coach, but it is his methods that are now being taught.

    BlkMtn

  • oh, dear god....

    you guys are aware that this team has about 5% of the talent of USC, right? 11% of the talent Oregon has. A confident QB who is ranked 10th in conference of 12 teams is not a good thing, because in week 3 when he finds out that he and the offense can't execute simple plays against decent teams- his confidence is blown and the next 9 games look like a pile of cow dung.

    We have years to go and multiple recruiting classes to bring in.

    You guys are aware that we won 4 games last year, right? And that only 1 of the four had a winning season against D1 opponents?

    "U can't touch this", until you find God and start preaching...

    "Arizona has no tradition" - Bill Walsh "We have a tradition of kicking Bill Walsh's ass" - Teddy Bruschi

    wineknow

  • wineknow said...

    You guys don't see what Blckmtn is saying here? He is absolutely right - this is prime bulletin board material for the first game. After the first decent defense shuts us down, it won't matter, but what a dumb thing to say.

    Our returning 5 OL's got shredded last year and couldn't block their way out of a paper bag. In a nutshell; they completely suck (see: rushing yardage). I can see Karey being a decent back in the right system, but he's too small to be a dominate, all pac-12, Reggie Bush/Clarence Farmer type. We have not had any sort of offense other than the; " you guys go out and Nick look for the open guy but don't ever throw past the first down marker" offense we ran the last two years.

    RR's offenses don't click the first year, nowhere that he has been has that ever happened. 1st year starting QB, the worst OL in the PAC-12, marginal talent at RB, average and largely unproven talent at receiver, no TE, and a defense that will likely have them starting at the 20 on most series.... yea this is not going to be a glorious offensive year.

    I agree bulletin board it is offensive line I will say got a lot better last year from the beginning of the year where I saw a three man rush get a sack to pretty strong in the ASU game. Carry I think is a legitimate talent and Jenkins is strong to. The thing was our offense was not the problem last year. Having an unstoppable offense means almost nothing if u have a defense that can't stop anybody. I hope the DBs come to play this year and linebackers can make tackles.

    darkhand44

  • wineknow said...

    oh, dear god....

    you guys are aware that this team has about 5% of the talent of USC, right? 11% of the talent Oregon has. A confident QB who is ranked 10th in conference of 12 teams is not a good thing, because in week 3 when he finds out that he and the offense can't execute simple plays against decent teams- his confidence is blown and the next 9 games look like a pile of cow dung.

    We have years to go and multiple recruiting classes to bring in.

    You guys are aware that we won 4 games last year, right? And that only 1 of the four had a winning season against D1 opponents?

    "U can't touch this", until you find God and start preaching...

    I really am not worried about the offense people are focusing on the offense to much we have offensive talent no where near USC but really the only teams with.that talent are LS and Alabama.that said in pros and college you don't need elite RB talent all long as he has some speed and pushes the pile forward that is all you need. I am terrified about the defense they could not stop anybody and were ran and thrown on. They are getting a new scheme and it takes time for the players to get it. The defense really does not resemble anything they have done where the offense at it's heart isspread with a strong running QB. I trust Casteel is a good defensive coach just don't know how good because the Big Easy is not the Pac12 and it is not going up against the talent in our conference I am hoping they do as good as people think. I feel this year if the defense does not get worse that is a win with the new scheme. The next year I expect them to be able to stop poor teams like ASU and Washington St. Then slowly compete with the upper half of the conference. I hope it goes faster but don't expect it.

    darkhand44

  • Golly whiz-bang, we gave "bulletin-board material" to some other team for our first game? My gawd, all is LOST, because that first game is against the mighty TOLEDO ROCKETS! Oh, woe......

    The always expert an non-medicated opinions of Debbie Downer and Polly Poundme aside, I confess to being a "Cat who sometimes drives down to hang at practice. As such, my opinion follows:

    Fall camp will tell in the first few days where we are. The staff hasn't decided on depth or starterrs, except for Scott, Carey, Buckner, Quinn, Baucus, and a few others on offense. Coach Anae has brought the O-Line through hell, and at the end of last year, they were good-to-very good. They will be a strength of the team, and will protect Matt very well. Remember, they wer giving Nick LOTS of time last year, and Matt will be getting the ball off twice as fast in this offense.

    Our receivers (as a group) were among the national leaders last year. They will be a strength again.
    Our RBs (as a group) are deeper, and should be able to break 1,500 yards, and with Scott's running, they will better that.

    Defense-- we still don't have the dominant NT we need, but, we can run fresh guys in for an entire game, which will help. The LBs are coming together, and Fischer will be a very good anchor, and don't forget Wagner and Hankins--- they're good.

    The loss of Hall hurts, but he was playing second-unit. Tevis and Bondurant with Richardson, McKnight, Samuels, Rainey et al, will be pretty strong.

    So.... we'll beat Toledo despite giving them all the terrible bulletin-board material, we'll probably lose to OK State (but they don't have Blackmon, but do have Charlie Moore).

    We will beat SC State, then we go to Eugene for a too-early showdown with Oregon. My guess is that we'll be up and down as we work into the offense and defense. We could win six, we could win eight or nine.

    In the meantime, the sky is falling, all is lost, we suck, and everything is just terrible.
    banghead

    RBob1

    RBob1

  • Rob1, thanks for the post... enough of the woe be me crap.... Lets move forward with the team we have... And as to bulletin board material... what the hell would you have Scott say? that we Suck and will never score a again... you armchair geniuses need to put a plug in it for a change....

    Pin High

  • RBob1 said...

    Golly whiz-bang, we gave "bulletin-board material" to some other team for our first game? My gawd, all is LOST, because that first game is against the mighty TOLEDO ROCKETS! Oh, woe......

    The always expert an non-medicated opinions of Debbie Downer and Polly Poundme aside, I confess to being a "Cat who sometimes drives down to hang at practice. As such, my opinion follows:

    Fall camp will tell in the first few days where we are. The staff hasn't decided on depth or starterrs, except for Scott, Carey, Buckner, Quinn, Baucus, and a few others on offense. Coach Anae has brought the O-Line through hell, and at the end of last year, they were good-to-very good. They will be a strength of the team, and will protect Matt very well. Remember, they wer giving Nick LOTS of time last year, and Matt will be getting the ball off twice as fast in this offense.

    Our receivers (as a group) were among the national leaders last year. They will be a strength again. Our RBs (as a group) are deeper, and should be able to break 1,500 yards, and with Scott's running, they will better that.

    Defense-- we still don't have the dominant NT we need, but, we can run fresh guys in for an entire game, which will help. The LBs are coming together, and Fischer will be a very good anchor, and don't forget Wagner and Hankins--- they're good.

    The loss of Hall hurts, but he was playing second-unit. Tevis and Bondurant with Richardson, McKnight, Samuels, Rainey et al, will be pretty strong.

    So.... we'll beat Toledo despite giving them all the terrible bulletin-board material, we'll probably lose to OK State (but they don't have Blackmon, but do have Charlie Moore).

    We will beat SC State, then we go to Eugene for a too-early showdown with Oregon. My guess is that we'll be up and down as we work into the offense and defense. We could win six, we could win eight or nine.

    In the meantime, the sky is falling, all is lost, we suck, and everything is just terrible.

    clap

    Time to nut up or shut up

    TewaWildcaT

  • RBob1, I also thank you and upvote your post. Unless the post is extremely derogatory against a named individual on your team the statements like those Scott made are forgotten on the first snap of the ball. Coaches know that and prepare you for whatever you have to do to win opportunities the opposing offense gives you. "Actions speak louder than words" is a fact in defensive football. It may surprise many to know that many players have their ancestry defamed along the line of scrimmage. Suprisingly the rumor must be spreading because it comes up again in the next game. At some point heavy breathing tends to dispel rumors. Some of the funniest things I've ever heard happen in that atmosphere.

    Reality is that you can play the game or you can't. I like the confidence Scott is showing. It means more to his own team than the opponent.

    rdotrbennett

  • Game quote.....Arizona vs. Missouri way back when... A Missouri o-lineman after getting whacked and run over for the third time on a blitz, with his QB on the ground..... "Dammit, when them fellers come after ya, you'd better move!".......We laughed for two whole series......

    RBob1

    RBob1

  • I was going to respond but then I remembered WK knows nothing about the game of football so it would be pointless.

    Kainoakat

  • Hoops either.

    Time to nut up or shut up

    TewaWildcaT

  • RBob1 said...

    Golly whiz-bang, we gave "bulletin-board material" to some other team for our first game? My gawd, all is LOST, because that first game is against the mighty TOLEDO ROCKETS! Oh, woe......

    The always expert an non-medicated opinions of Debbie Downer and Polly Poundme aside, I confess to being a "Cat who sometimes drives down to hang at practice. As such, my opinion follows:

    Fall camp will tell in the first few days where we are. The staff hasn't decided on depth or starterrs, except for Scott, Carey, Buckner, Quinn, Baucus, and a few others on offense. Coach Anae has brought the O-Line through hell, and at the end of last year, they were good-to-very good. They will be a strength of the team, and will protect Matt very well. Remember, they wer giving Nick LOTS of time last year, and Matt will be getting the ball off twice as fast in this offense.

    Our receivers (as a group) were among the national leaders last year. They will be a strength again. Our RBs (as a group) are deeper, and should be able to break 1,500 yards, and with Scott's running, they will better that.

    Defense-- we still don't have the dominant NT we need, but, we can run fresh guys in for an entire game, which will help. The LBs are coming together, and Fischer will be a very good anchor, and don't forget Wagner and Hankins--- they're good.

    The loss of Hall hurts, but he was playing second-unit. Tevis and Bondurant with Richardson, McKnight, Samuels, Rainey et al, will be pretty strong.

    So.... we'll beat Toledo despite giving them all the terrible bulletin-board material, we'll probably lose to OK State (but they don't have Blackmon, but do have Charlie Moore).

    We will beat SC State, then we go to Eugene for a too-early showdown with Oregon. My guess is that we'll be up and down as we work into the offense and defense. We could win six, we could win eight or nine.

    In the meantime, the sky is falling, all is lost, we suck, and everything is just terrible. banghead

    Things to remember about Okla St, not only do they lose Blackmon but they lose Weeden and he just could not absolutely miss in the game this past fall. Forget about the poor pass rush and little pressure, he was hitting difficult throws and putting the ball in a very small area all game long. Weeden won that game, IMO. I really doubt they have anyone with that talent or skill set in the wings at this point. I would be very surprised if they come close to the the number of wins this year that they had last.

    nukengr