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These guys are going to win this week

  • We have better talent albeit less experienced than when Stoops beat (upset Cal) for the first time in 06. We are faster, stronger and bigger on the DL than that team. We can run the ball on Oregon and possibly outmuscle their DL with our OL to provide some seams for K.C. and K.A. If we control the ball on the ground the stage is set for the perfect Hollywood style ending, redemption for A.Z. I'm not kidding, I really believe we are going to win. I think KaDeem has a coming out party.

    rickyk

  • rickykbow
    This is great news coming from Wildcat country. I see the trip to the cardiologist,invigorated your passion.
    I'm with you ,this may be the start of many more wins to comeholyholy

    1tazcat

  • Is that Scotch or beer you guys are drinking? Please send me a few rounds.......pray

    wato ●

  • wato said...

    Is that Scotch or beer you guys are drinking? Please send me a few rounds.......pray

    It's happy hour somewhere in the world right now and the bar is clearly open!

    National Basketball Recruiting Analyst & Publisher of Wildcat Sports Report

    Gary Randazzo

  • Mike's Place in Tel Aviv just might get a little business from me in about one hour.............

    wato ●

  • The sun never sets on the Wildcat Sports Report Empire.

    BlkMtn

  • Ball control against one of the most prolific, dynamic offenses out there.... makes perfect sense. We've rushed for a total of 92 yards against FBS teams this season... I see no reason we can;t expect Carey, Antolin and co. to hit at least the season average of 46.

    We have more talent now than we did when we upset Cal in 06? We also have more than when we lost to New Mexico and theoretically we have less (due to injury and youth) than when we got blown out by ________________ (fill in the blank with any one of 8 FBS teams we've played recently).

    "Arizona has no tradition" - Bill Walsh "We have a tradition of kicking Bill Walsh's ass" - Teddy Bruschi

    wineknow

  • While I do think we should start out two back, I don't think we can just pound the ball at Oregon. Our defense isn't at full strength and at best we will slow them down. We have to outscore them, or get up on them...DON'T DEFER. I still say throw and have the two backs in to max protect. THEN run traps/draws/screens inside or out. You can run double screens with two backs and/or a WR. Not sure our OL is ready to power rush teams out of the spread....or maybe ever this year. UO's secondary is vulnerable...throw it deep to Criner and make them pull a safety out of the box...then you run.

    Defensively we have to play disciplined football. I would play cover 2 Man out of a nickel and have the NB spy. UO's offense is about play action. They gash you with the run, then throw for the big play. If Flowers loses his reads again, look for a lot of long TD passes. I'm starting to think Flowers needs to move to LB or SS.

    Kudo's to WK for once again making the obscure New Mexico reference. I had salsa yesterday, and while it was tasty I can't help thinking that if we hadn't lost to New Mexico theoretically our defense would be better this year.

    Kainoakat

  • Well, I just got back from Mike's place and now because of Wineknow and Kainoakat I am craving Mexican food. Unfortunately that is not going to happen, likely a falafel with fire red hot sauce is the meal...........I have got to find a Mexican restuarant. Darn it!

    And I do agree with Kainoakat, attack and set up other plays to take advantage of any vulnerabilities.

    Problem is Oregon might have that figured out and at some point if we are in the game it will come down to discipline and execution.........and that is where I start to get more than a little worried nowadays.

    Is there anyway to transport Nick Foles back to some of our very good teams in the 90's that were a qb away from being great? That could be a thread in itself, what if we could send Nick back in time and wake up the next day with no memories except Championship teams from the late 90's?

    wato ●

  • rickyk said...

    We have better talent albeit less experienced than when Stoops beat (upset Cal) for the first time in 06. We are faster, stronger and bigger on the DL than that team. We can run the ball on Oregon and possibly outmuscle their DL with our OL to provide some seams for K.C. and K.A. If we control the ball on the ground the stage is set for the perfect Hollywood style ending, redemption for A.Z. I'm not kidding, I really believe we are going to win. I think KaDeem has a coming out party.

    Who's your doctor? I want a Rx for some of that.

    Bear Down Arizona! Wildcat Sports Report, CFO AZ's Certified Tax Coach at Wildcat Tax & Accountingwww.WildcatTax.com

    bpwildcat

  • Kainoakat said...

    Kudo's to WK for once again making the obscure New Mexico reference. I had salsa yesterday, and while it was tasty I can't help thinking that if we hadn't lost to New Mexico theoretically our defense would be better this year.

    Thanks! I try to remind people of it at least once per day - because Stoops should have been fired for it. You may have heard or seen my theory on that somewhere...

    The point is that an upset of a team 5 years ago means nothing. We don't have one single player that was there and most of our assistants weren't either. Oregon 2011 is a whole different animal than Cal in 2006.

    So the New Mexico losses are just as relevant or irrelevant as the Cal upset and I had the chance to bring it up again! Win-win.

    Ball control against Oregon is the perfect game plan - IF, IF and I can't emphasize IF enough....IF you have a great punter AND the Desert Swarm defense AND one of Tomey's Running backs AND some offensive linemen named Toffelmeier, Fina, Manumaluena....et al....

    Just in case anyone is unclear -

    We do have a great punter!

    Trevin Wade could likely have been third string on the Desert Swarm D and Maybe Washington by the time he is a senior... so we are only 9 1/2 guys short on having a Desert Swarm type defense.

    Carey may be as good as Tomey's worst starting running back and the OL is useless at this point when it comes to running.

    Did I mention that we've got a great punter?

    This post was edited by wineknow on 9/22/2011 at 12:48 PM

    "Arizona has no tradition" - Bill Walsh "We have a tradition of kicking Bill Walsh's ass" - Teddy Bruschi

    wineknow

  • I can't help but think if we hadn't won at Cal in 2006 we may have never known how good sour cream mixed with el pato sauce could really be.

    The double eagle flex would never work now.

    Kainoakat

  • The double eagle flex would never work now.

    It's not the scheme, it's the ability.

    We certainly don't have players now of the ability of the Swarm years. Defense anyway.

    BlkMtn

  • Just curious, did all those players magically grow ability from 1991 to 1992? Because it was mostly the same players on that 1991 squad that developed into the Desert Swarm.

    Btw, we were 4-7 in 1991 and lost 54-0 to UW and 54-14 to Ucla. Maybe Tomey should have been fired. We really need some of those magic ability pills for this team. Or maybe, we'll just have to wait for them to take some lumps, get experience and game rep's, and develop. Still....let me know about the magic pills.

    Kainoakat

  • Kainoa, dont be obtuse.

    Tomey wasn't in year 8. Period, playing all freshmen along the OL is inexcuseable...there shouldn't have been that huge a gap in recruiting.

    Tate

  • I agree! Arizona played such great assignment football against Stanford and Stanford is way more athletic across the board than Oregon...........

    A degree from Arizona gets u into graduate school, a degree from asu gets u into high school.

    Aricat3

  • Wato can have some hummus on me. The rest of you can buy me a bunch of chile rellenos at Mi Niditos. This has nothing to do with anything other than the Wildcats finally having the light click on and some Wildcat pride kicking in this week. It's the same feeling I had when we beat Oregon 34-24 in 07, and some of the other great upsets over the years. I don't expect anyone to understand it, but we have talent on this team. Yeah, we've got injuries and youth; a lot of teams have youth, starting true frosh and the like, and those guys are contributing on those other teams. UW had a true frosh linebacker just like us and he factored into the game against Nebraska last week pretty nicely albeit the Huskies lost a competitive game.

    For all the things we feel about Stoops and nobody is more critical of him than me--Wine isn't critical he's like that constant pain I have in my ---(hip), but the one thing I've always thought is he isn't an idiot mentally, just emotionally, and he is stubborn as hell. But he will adapt when necessary to save his azz. He did it when he moved Dimel over to take over play calling back in what was it, 07? He did it in 09 when he opted to toughen the guys up after the Iowa humiliation and I saw signs of some toughening up last week. Look at the plays against Stanford when we had them down on our goal line. Why was Luck passing on that one Wade almost got the int? Because Stanford recognized that our DL wasn't budging much with Ward, Fuimoano and Taula anchoring inside. They had already plugged the line once and pushed the Trees back. Interior DL play is the key to beating the Quack attack and ours is big, strong enough and agile enough to pull it off. As Trevin Wade said after the Stanford game, if guys just do what the coach told them and follow the keys we'd be fine. BTW, Wade is due for some major props this year because he totally turned it around from last season.

    Finally, Oregon is pretty inexperienced and young on their DL. They have good experienced DBs but that DL is just as young as ours and they can be run on. This is going to happen if we play fast, physical and fight; and we are.

    rickyk

  • Tate: Tomey was in year 5 in 1991 and was playing a lot of frosh himself including Warner Smith, Paul Stamer etc due to injuries. They came back pretty nicely in 92. The difference is those guys were true frosh and our frosh this year have been in our program for at least a year and I think the light clicks on this week,

    rickyk

  • Exactly right Rick...so the question remains Tate...should Tomey have been fired? How did he not foresee the gap in talent and all the injuries? I mean he had five years to recruit players...how did he end up starting true freshmen?

    Sorry if that's too obtuse for you.

    Kainoakat

  • Here are my feelings on Dick Tomey...I'm glad he was asked to leave even though the road has been hellish.

    I've told this story many times but Ill paraphrase:

    2 weeks before our showdown with Penn State in 99 I was giving Tomey a personal trail ride during the UA coaches retreat. Just me and Dick riding along the Rillito River, him on my Buckskin heel horse. My sister was with two other coaches (Charlie Dickey and I forget the other) some ways behind us

    Me: Im 15 or 16 years old at the time thrilled to be in his presence as a child of two UA alumni and a life long UA fan. Towards the end of the ride I finally summoned up the courage to ask him what he thought of the game with Penn State.

    What does he say to a young eager fan?

    He starts talking about how some paper has Penn State winning by this much and how ESPN is saying this and bla bla bla.

    Even in my young teens I was appalled.

    Tate

  • Kainoakat said...

    Exactly right Rick...so the question remains Tate...should Tomey have been fired? How did he not foresee the gap in talent and all the injuries? I mean he had five years to recruit players...how did he end up starting true freshmen?

    Sorry if that's too obtuse for you.

    Big difference between a rebuilding year and inept coaching. We happen to have both right now, Tomey only had a rebuilding year.

    "Arizona has no tradition" - Bill Walsh "We have a tradition of kicking Bill Walsh's ass" - Teddy Bruschi

    wineknow

  • QB draw up the middle on third and long. Punting on third down. Starting true freshmen on the DL because he dust have the foresight to recruit adequate subs. Starting a safety at QB because he didn't have the foresight to recruit an adequate sub. See....I can play the game too. Except for Tomey it's "rebuilding"....what a wonderful world you all live in.

    Kainoakat

  • There is absolutely no sane comparison over the coaching ability of Dick Tomey and Mike Stoops.

    Tomey was head and shoulders above Stoops in terms of intellect, ability to control his emotion, and strategy.

    BlkMtn

  • Haha...you just don't get it do you?

    Kainoakat

  • agreed Oregon does not have the defense that Stanford has...

    but their offense is far more dangerous...

    as much as I can't stand oregon and this is the game for me all year...I just don't see a good outcome here...

    if I saw anything that gave me any hope in games 2 and 3 against superior competition maybe....but I saw nothing....

    beat oregon

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