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The new networks go live 8/15 and right now it is still only with the four major cable companies ( Comcast, TW, Cox and Brighthouse), although they are in talks with Direct And Dish as well as ATT and Verizon no further carriers have been added. They are optomistic on adding more in the future. Right now the four carriers provide excellent coverage of our seven (includes Nevada) state footprint and that is why these four were picked Comcast , TW and Cox are the 3 largest cable companies and Brighthouse is big in our area. Theother major players Charter and Cable Visoin not big in the west. If I had to guess and it is a guess Direct may come aboard by August but I do not see Dish doing so. I alos believe aTT and Verizon will ventually be added. I am just glad to have Cox with the sports Tier and soon the PAC 12 network to watch all the games. Great time to be a fan.
glad for you Jim
Directv better not let me down.
if anyone hears anything, let us know.
I heard today that Direct says they will not being adding it but I also know there are negotiations going on. It may the level of the person commenting is not that high is not tht highin Direct TV
The major cable companies may be fine in the big cities. The cable services I've had in small towns truely suck as compared to satellite. It's hard for me to believe the Pac 12 network will give our conference national expossure if it isn't on both satellite companies.
We cannot force it on the sastelite companies if they do not want to add us. It took two years for them to add the Big 10 network. We are still working on it but it has to be carrrier fees fair to the teams. The four cable companies involved cover virtually all of the seven state PAC 12 grid but that is a problem in places like Wyoming, but Colorado, Utah, Necada Arizona and the other pac 12 states should be covered. That is why they picked these four companies because they have the best coverage of our footprint. Dish and and Direct are notoriously hard to negotiate with. It apperrs they may add ATT and Verizon and it will be digitally available on the net.
I still hope Direct comes across but do not expect it right away, I do not see Dish ever coming aboard.
So far a trainwreck in coverage. Those cable companies you mention only cover about 1 tenth of the Los Angeles market, and those are in the coastal communities like Hermosa Beach, Redondo and parts of Santa Monica. The person negotiating this TV deal isn't thinking with their head.
Hopefully things change. Without satellite and then Verizon whatever TV viewing ratings the Network is anticipating will fall woefully short of goal.
For those who currently will get the Network, congratulations. For the rest of the out of market audiences, cross your fingers.
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Time to nut up or shut up
I consider jjones the foremost authority on the TV deal as no one's followed this more closely than him the past 18 months. I'm just hoping that the conference figures out a way to expedite additional contracts and deals because the cable companies aren't enough to capture the national audience.
yeah i have comcast!! But the Alumni Bar here has Direct TV. hmmmmm
Gary I thoughTime Warner waas the dominant cable company in LA is that not the case? If not then who is? Incidentally I understand that Direct TV has a history of stalling untilthelast minute to get a better deal and then signs. Ihope they donot get a better deal than the others becasue they do not deserve it but i hope they sign. I would like to see Dish but that one does not sound good.
Jim PS I understand they are negotiating with Verizon and ATT but did not know Verizon was thaat big a player.
This post was edited by jjones163 on 4/24/2012 at 3:57 PM
The real expert on this topic, Jon Wilner of the San Jose Mercury News updated today on the topic. Basically if you live in the seven state footprint (California, Oregon,Washington, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, or Arizona and have access to oneof the four cable providers you will have access through basic cavble to the PaC 12 Network starting 8/15. There is nothing to report on negotiations with the Telcos (ATT and Verison) and the satelite companies Dish and Direct as not much is happening. They are talking but a deal with any of them is not likely until close to the deadline.
Options right now are wait to see if others are added which is very likely. Sign up with a cable company listed as a partner who also has full access to ESPN/ ABC, Fox and their SN and the new network and this can be expensive. Or get a good intrernet connection and subscribe through the conference at whatever fee they will charge. I am not sure what that fee will be but I am sure you can find out closer to August. Do not expect any major deals until very latee July or maybe even August since right now they are not likely.
Gary I am confused by your comment on the LA market as I thought that the big providers there are TW, Charter, Comcast, Cox and now ATT and Verizon in addition to the satelite companies. I know the LA area is a diverse place with lots of options for buyers but I cannot believe Verizon is that big with only 3.9 million subscribers nationwide, I will be very surprised if Verizon is not added as the are a Corporate Partner of the PaC 12
Go to Jon Wilner blogs for more information. He is a former Arizona Daily Star writer who hates Arizona but is good onthis issue.
This post was edited by jjones163 on 4/24/2012 at 6:06 PM
damn it, I had a long answer and got time out.
First, Jim don't let my comments deter your from future updates. Without your posts I'd be in the dark on the subject so thank you.
Time Warner is big in the South Bay from San Pedro to Santa Monica. However, as we move south from Long Beach through Orange County it's charter communications and Verizon as the two prime cable and Fios providers. In fact, Verizon Fios used Long Beach and Orange County as one of their test pilot markets, using really aggressive rates to get people to subscribe.
My only options where I live include DirecTV, Dish, Verizon and Charter unfortunately. Like you and others suggest, though, the satellite companies are notorious SOBs that usually cave at some point. I just hope they cave sooner than later.
As CatsinCo said above, every sports bar in Long Beach uses DirecTV so that wouldn't even be an option as things currently stand.
Most sports baars in Phoenix (and there are many mostof whom I have not tried) also have Direct including Hooters, O'Sullivans, but the best of the bunch Padre Murphy's which is an off track betting spolrts bar has both Direct and Cox although they mostly use Direct. I know thqat the AD's meet in May to resolve some issues but I do not expect any action on the negotiations until very late july or even mid August. Not to tell you whawt to buy but I would pick Verizon in fact if it was available here and had the PAC 12 I would switch from Cox which is extremely expensive.
Has anyone heard if the conference is in negotiations with Charter at all. Idid not know they were big out west.
Thanks for keeping us informed on this subject Jim.
I will update aas available but the May AD meeting will not show much and hen in June the football schedules for TV will be partially revealed. It will not be until the very last minute on these negotiations and some will not be closed even then.
I will continue to monitor jon wilner and Pac 12 sources.
Thanks Jim from me as well. I am a Directv guy here in Chandler, AZ and I'm not switching to Cox for any reason. I will just have to hope that if Directv doesn't pick it up, that we become good enough at football that they will show our games on the major networks.
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