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1. Chol starts, Zues sits. Zues should redshirt next year until he can learn to catch. Most importantly he has to learn how to to actually put the ball through the damn hoop, which is apparently impossible for him from 1 or 2 feet away. The guy is like 2 for the last 175 shots he's attempted from close range. Love his rebounding, can't really say anything else he does matters, in fact a lot of it hurts us. He is entering KNat territory here and while I'm not ready to use the word 'bust' yet, if he's playing like this early next season, he will spend as much time in the NBA as Shakur did. Don't blink.
2. Parrom starts, Lyons comes off the bench. "what about the PG?" you ask. Well, Nick Johnson is, right now, a better PG than Lyons. So is SOLO. So is Parrom. So is Mayes. In fact, Max Weipking is a better PG than Lyons and there is every chance that you and I are too. Lyons is a helluva BB player and a great two guard - how incredibly befuddled or confused or just plain delirious is Sean Miller to be playing him at the PG position? I don't get it... with a little effort Johnson is literally in the dame league as a Damon Stoudamire or Steve Kerr. Smart, leader, great passer, excellent scorer.... Lyons is only one of those things.
3. WWLD? What would Lute do? Play a zone defense from time to time to throw an opponent off, keep them guessing, not let the build a huge lead....We threw a 2-3 at Washington for two series. Perfect. It completely changed the tempo. When we were down 10-0 to Stanford was there any thought whatsoever that we should maybe be doing something different? Obviously not. It's OK, we caught up to them 35 minutes later. Good thing the game is not 30 minutes long.
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I'm sure CSM will take this under consideration
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Sky is falling
WK I like you, but your ideas are crazy. Chol played well but Asnley and Zeus are the future of the team not Chol .
Keep Lyons and Parrom as they are now
Lyons should play all 40 minutes if he can, he is a straight up man. Also did you see he had 6 assists last night!
20-2....Time to fix this thing before it is too late.
Love Nick, but where was his "excellent scoring" last night? AZ might have lost if it weren't for Lyons imo. Calicat is right, we're 20-2. A LOT of teams would love to be in our position.
Time to nut up or shut up
Ha ha ha, where do I start. Oh, never mind everyone else has.
Chol played well.
Lyons isn't going to come off the bench. Dumb idea.
Defense. What kept us in the game was our defense. Switching to a zone would have been dumb and Lute wouldn't have done it.
1. Your spelling has always sucked...his nickname is spelled Zeus.
2. Coach M recognized the mismatch between the Cardinal's players and Zeus, hence the change. But for the mismatch, Zeus probably would have played more. But Coach M recognized the mismatch, somewhat rolled the dice, and the gamble paid off. Chol came to play and look forward to more from this outstanding young man.
3. Zeus = K Gnat?! Really. Seriously...rethink that position - it is skewed more than the Veer Towers in Las Vegas.
4. Lyons had his BEST assist game against serious competition last night. He only came close to last nights game against earlier cupcake teams on our schedule. Come March, Lyons will be where he needs to be developmental wise. He could have done better last night, but he is a work in progress. Recall, he played the 2 at Xavier, so he needs a little more time to develop accordingly.
5. Said earlier, but I will remind you again - we WON. As in, did not lose. 20-2 baby!
6. Bear Down!
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I love telling SM what he should do also. But lets face it CHOL hasn't been the spark in any game. Why should this be different.
Oh...wait, maybe it is because he got more minutes to gel and feel part of the team. Hello...Earth to Miller. More minutes means more productivity. No one, no one can come off the bench and play 2 minutes and showcase anything. They all ....HELLO YORK...... Need more time.
Give CHOL more and only time Lyons should sit is to clear his head when he does that drive-to-the-basket-with6 defenders on his body
One of the funniest comments I've read in a while...well done Cali.
I'm glad others responded. I was about to respond late last night but decided that cleaning out the grout between my kitchen tiles with a razor blade would be less stressful.
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Thank you everyone... this is all just a set up...
When we lose in the sweet 16 and all of you are perplexed and frustrated, I'll be able to say 'I told you so'. Our coach in young and inexperienced, our freshmen players are either over rated or undeveloped and our seniors will only e able to take us so far.
I said it about Mackovic, when everyone (other than Chitown) else supported him crying on TV, I didn't fall for it.
I said it about Stoopid (711, that's intentionally mis-spelled) after the second New Mexico loss, but got read the riot act.. and never wavered.
I noted that Lute apparently had the 'Madness of King George' (a great movie, btw) two years earlier than the details of his condition surfaced and while my diagnosis was not correct, I nailed the the symptoms.
I'm not saying Miller is a bad coach, but he is also not immune from criticism. We win just barely and we lose big. We play from behind in most games and he sees no need to change his offense or defense. This is not the dominant BB that AZ stands for. It may the only thing Bill Walton has said in twenty years that is actually relevant... but where are the dominant teams who go out and routinely crush a team like Stanford. Who win 10 games in a row by 15 or 20 points?
Zeus out of bounds bobbled off his knee. Bobbled off his foot for a turn over. Misses a 1' foot shot. Then misses a 2' foot put back. Rebound tipped by him on the way out of bounds. Pass from Lyons dropped. Pass from Parrom Dropped. Pass from Johnson, through his hands. We're talking about one game here. Passes into three defenders who literally just take it out of his hands. 3' shot blocked some random backup who looks at least a foot and a half shorter....We're talking about one game here. He's awful with the ball in his hands. Beyond awful. When it comes to scoring efficiency, he is by far, the worst freshmen big man we have ever had. I can't take another layup missed. Chol, last night, or whoever was wearing his jersey, was better in every aspect of the game than we have ever seen Zeus be and in fact he was likely better than Zeus has the potential to be, at least this year.
So yea, we're 20-2 but if you think there is nothing to fix, you are either not paying attention or don't know basketball. Zeus can't catch or shoot. Giving up huge early leads to opponents is NOT a good thing.
I was also ridiculed when I questioned KNat early in his career. "He'll be fine" was the classic response...I suspect mostly from the same people here who feel the need to make fun of me for my ideas in this post. How did that turn out for you guys?
Told you so....
Fair post wineknow but the "I told you so" card is the easiest one to play because every team, at some point, loses a game. UCLA has won a single national title in the last 35 years. Arizona's only title came 15 years ago. Predicting a team won't reach the Final Four has about a 99.9% success rate for any team, any season because so many variables come into play (you yourself have pointed out the horrible officiating that cost UA the 2001 title).
Personally, I go game to game because that's the only way to truly enjoy a basketball season, while also accurately measuring the progression or regression of a team and reporting on that fairly. If I were to wait for a loss to prove myself correct on some prediction(s) I make I would seriously stop covering sports and likely stop watching them, entirely.
"The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat!"
The sign of an elite team is when they can squeak out a victory even when they play like my mid morning constitutional.
This team does not have any of the character problems as they have had in recent memory. How many kids have been suspended or have been pushed out.....errr....transferred this year? They get along, are on the same page and have accepted their roles like it or not. Each player that has skills has been given an opportunity to step up and contribute. Glad Chol had the game he had. He was amazing. Even York has been given a shot despite his obvious defensive deficiencies. So, Zoose could not catch a pass. I promise he will get that fixed just like his skin will clear up by the time he leaves school. But what is great is that when he does play worse than a bottle of corked wine at a dinner in my favorite 5 star, Zagat highly recommended restaurant, Leila's located in Oak Park, CA. Phone number 818-707-6939 there is a suitable replacement in Sean Miller's cellar that is rated a 92 by Wine Spectator or 95 by Parker because he found a case of Screaming Eagle on his porch. But that is for another rant. Sorry for drifting off base. Anyway, the point is... Damn, we have a bench that actually is not a wood fixture nailed to the floor in the McKale Center.
Elite 8 is the floor for this time, just wanted to be able to say I told you so!
I'm sorry, I didn't read that last garbage post of his. He lost me at "Our coach is young and inexperienced...". Young, sure. but I would hardly call him inexperienced.
As I have researched and posted ad nauseum since last year. Of the 150 or so winningest coaches/HOF coaches in the history of college basketball, only 3 have an equivalent or better tournament record in their first 8 years as HC as Sean has.
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Upvote Calicat. Finally an analogy that Wine can relate too.
Agree with what Gary said, just wanted to add this.
We aren't seeing as many of the dominant, extreme blowouts and #1 teams staying #1 all season like back in the day. At the same time we've started to see more and more teams that would traditionally be classified as "Cinderellas" make it deeper into the tournament than ever before (George Mason, Butler, VCU, etc).
Possibly parity is playing a part here as well.
My bet is Nick was still struggling with whatever made him sick at OSU. He sure looked a step slow.
This post was edited by PaulJCPACFP 14 months ago
Gary, can I borrow that rusty razor blade? I think I might have to slit my wrists after reading WKs last two posts.....
BEAR DOWN boys... The best is yet to come....
1. Chol was great Weds night and Zeus has issues. That being said, who is he team's leading rebounder and has had two near double-doubles in the past five games?
2. I too would start Parrom, but I'd put him at the three and slide Hill to the four. Lyons is frustrating but he's also been great at times.
3. Yes, Lute used zones,but there were also entire seasons he would not run one at all, or other times he insisted on the 1-3-1 to the detriment of the team (2003 tourney against Kansas?). My guess is that Lute ran man 85-90% of the time. BTW Miller has used the zone sparringly, he did it a few times when York was in the game.
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Switching defenses is no magic bullet.
Can it be effective at times? Sure. But it is no guarantee. With so many new players, especially the bigs in the program, the time it takes to add in another type of defense is probably better spent teaching how to do one thing well. As it is, our defense is pretty darn good. I'd like to see the proof that failure to switch d back and forth has been a problem.
We have been on at least three boards together, and I've never been bothered by your opinions, Wineknow, but just a bit of advice; the "I was the only one," thing is wearing a bit thin. Just a heads up.
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...this post was followed by a 2 rebound, 6 point, 2 turnover out burst from Zues and a home loss to an un-ranked opponent who's well respected and experienced coach used multiple defenses and multiple offenses during the game to respond to different line ups and circumstances. For the 17th time in 23 games our Point Guard (Season: 70 assists, 66 turnovers) did not led the team in assists.
I may have no idea what I'm talking about but it sure seems to me that there are some very fundamental things that Miller just does not get. Shooting % (shot selection, offensive sets...) matters. Turnovers matter. Assist to TO ratio for a PG matters. Tempo matters. In game coaching is more than substitutions. Player match ups matter. All of these things just seem to get glossed over, ignored or forgotten about because Miller is so vastly experienced and accomplished - how dare anyone question him. Ashley was 4 for 10. Hill was 4 for 12. Lyons was 5 for 14. What if they each took 1 less shot and Gabe York took 3 shots? What's better? Two rebounds, 6 points and 2 turnovers in 16 minutes or 2 rebounds, 1 points and zero turnovers in 6 minutes?
Yep, we were 20-2 and I was ridiculed for expressing concern. "Better fix it..." ha ha. I knew nothing. My posts were just 'garbage'. Anyone can predict we get to the final four...blah blah blah...
Now we're 20-3, with an unexpected and inexplicable loss (actually coaching pretty well covers it).
And you DON'T want me to say 'I told you so', right? OK.
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