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  • It's almost like it doesn't matter how you do against great competition, just that you schedule tough competition.

    For years, Olson played anyone, anywhere, and Miller changed that philosophy.

    That certainly was one of the factors that played into not getting an at large bid.

    BlkMtn

  • If I remember correctly, that's how the Kevin oneil and Russ pennell teams got into the tournament fields. They still had Olson schedules. The talking heads at the mother ship didn't like us getting in, but the selection committee was pretty clear about it. Play a tough schedule, do well against a tough schedule, and you're in.

    Bear Down Arizona

    Ben J

  • Miller isn't against a tough schedule but he did say he would try to tone it down initially. then ramp it back up when the time was right. The schedule will be much better next year. They are headed to Maui right?

    Wildcat_Brad

  • Wildcat_Brad said...

    Miller isn't against a tough schedule but he did say he would try to tone it down initially. then ramp it back up when the time was right. The schedule will be much better next year. They are headed to Maui right?

    No Maui next near

    liver97

  • http://diamondheadclassic.com/PR/pr_20111118.html

    i thought they were going. told my wife i was taking her to hawaii. how do i get out of it know? panic

    Rockdoc

  • Rockdoc said...

    http://diamondheadclassic.com/PR/pr_20111118.html

    i thought they were going. told my wife i was taking her to hawaii. how do i get out of it know? panic

    Don't cancel those reservations yet, Rockdoc,

    They are two different tournaments. Maui Invitational is earlier in the season.

    This still cracked me up though.

    lol

    Thanksgiving week:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maui_Invitational_Tournament

    Christmas week (your link in Honolulu):
    http://diamondheadclassic.com/PR/pr_20111118.html

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Ashton on 3/11/2012 at 7:21 PM

    Ashton

  • Rockdoc said...

    http://diamondheadclassic.com/PR/pr_20111118.html

    i thought they were going. told my wife i was taking her to hawaii. how do i get out of it know? panic

    They might be going to that tournament. But that is different then the preseson Maui Classic. Their preseason tourny is in San Jaun or the Behamas if i heard right.

    CatsinCO

  • Sorry Ashton did not see your post. You beat me to it. I guess i was too busy reading about the other hawaii tourny.

    CatsinCO

  • one thing is for sure. The Pac12 will suck again next year. if there are any open dates we better be aggressive.

    Wildcat_Brad

  • With the exception of S. Miss (RPI - 20) and Marshall (43) the selection committee went with the RPI for the Bubble Teams:

    Southern Miss (20) NOT IN
    Colo St (27)
    Cal (38)
    Iona (42)
    Marshall (43) NOT IN
    NCSU (46)
    Texas (48)
    BYU (49)
    S. Florida (51)
    WVU (53)
    Oral Roberts (55) NOT IN
    Ole Miss (57) NOT IN
    Northwestern (59) NOT IN
    Miami (60) NOT IN
    Seton Hall (61) NOT IN
    Oregon (62) NOT IN
    Drexel (64) NOT IN
    UW (70) NOT IN
    Miss St (73) NOT IN
    Arizona (75) NOT IN
    Tenn (85) NOT IN

    If you are in a major conference...you better work on your RPI!

    Wildcat_Brad

  • Wildcat_Brad said...

    one thing is for sure. The Pac12 will suck again next year. if there are any open dates we better be aggressive.

    UCLA, Colorado, Stanford and us will all be better. I can't see how this year isn't rock bottom for the Pac.

    liver97

  • Somiss is a 9 seed.

    schnau

  • Washington could be really good if Wroten and Ross come back...but that is a long shot.
    Oregon loses 3 major contributors
    Stanford - I think you are right.
    Colorado losses 2 key players, including their best (Brown) - young guys look good though
    UCLA loses two key guards (Anderson, Jones)
    Cal loses Kamp and Gutierrez

    I wouldn't expect it to be much better. Maybe a little. I think Arizona should be favored to win the conference baring anything crazy in the offseason. They better perform in the pre-season though.

    Wildcat_Brad

  • OSU will better as well, I think they could do some damage in the non confrence.

    liver97

  • OSU should lose Cunningham. He should have been the player of the year in the Pac-12 this year. They can't possibly be better.

    Bear Down Arizona

    Ben J

  • Yes, Miller did say he wanted to tone down the strength of schedule initially while the program was rebuilding. That decision proved to hurt the program in my opinion and I'm more than comfortable saying that publicly.

    As Brad Allis and I were talking last week, had Arizona played and lost to New Mexico and UNLV rather than beating Bryant University by 40 points and smoking Oakland at home we'd be in the tournament right now.

    The lesson, ramp up that schedule immediately.

    National Basketball Recruiting Analyst & Publisher of Wildcat Sports Report

    Gary Randazzo

  • Couldn't agree with this more. There are a ton of good schools out west that we could play every year or every other year that would totally help our SOS and RPI numbers. Just off the top of my head I'm thinking UNLV, UNM, NMSU, San Diego State, St Marys, Gonzaga, Colorado State, Wyoming, Reno... heck even making it down to Baylor, UT, and Texas A&M as the road part of home-and-homes could be huge for improving our Non-Con schedule. I wouldn't mind going 9-4, 8-5, or even 7-6 with that kind of a schedule.

    Bear Down Arizona

    Ben J

  • I couldn't agree more, this is Arizona offer all those schools home and home series. The fans would love it and I just don't see any reason why we shouldn't do it, what are we afraid?

    liver97

  • Both our SOS and RPI are not only dependent on how Arizona scheduules but on how the rest of the Pac schedules. With teams like OSU, ASU and Stanford scheduling very weak and then losing it destoys it for all of he teams. The only game on our schedule I have a problem with was Bryant which really hurt. All of the conference needs to schedule better and win OOC.

    Jim

    jjones163 ●

  • it wasn't the non-conf that killed our sos. it was the conference. the sos has been on a downward slope since jan. give miller credit....playing florida, gonzaga, clemson, miss st, sdsu, st johns, and new mexico st is not that bad. it is a hell of a lot better than 80% of the schools out there. the rpi could have gotten a big boost by beating florida, gonzaga, or sdsu. this was a swing at the pac12...not our non-conf schedule. i would like to see it get better though.

    Wildcat_Brad

  • Our non conference schedule was not first in the pac, so yes it did kill us. We control our non conference schedule and if we schedule harder and get in because of it more of the other Pac teams will take notice and follow our example.

    This post was edited by liver97 on 3/12/2012 at 8:02 AM

    liver97

  • From what I saw this season we would be in the tourney if one of several things happen. First if Williams ewould have comeback, if momo jones stayed, parrum had not gotten shot, and if sidiki. And Josiah had not made asshats of themselveswe would have made the tourney miller is a great coach but he is not a miracle worker I am thinking next year will be better if some things turn the wildcat way. We will have hill and patrimonial as seniors and Solomon I feel will be a huge leader, gabe York is going to to be a scorer that we need, and I feel there will be a couple guys coming in that we don't know of yet that will have a Perry kind of impact.

    darkhand44

  • liver97 said...

    Our non conference schedule was not first in the pac, so yes it did kill us. We control our non conference schedule and if we schedule harder and get in because of it more of the other Pac teams will take notice and follow our example.

    it did not kill us. the fact that we didn't beat enough quality teams killed us. sos was a contributing factor but lesser so than lack of quality wins.

    Wildcat_Brad

  • Ben J said...

    Couldn't agree with this more. There are a ton of good schools out west that we could play every year or every other year that would totally help our SOS and RPI numbers. Just off the top of my head I'm thinking UNLV, UNM, NMSU, San Diego State, St Marys, Gonzaga, Colorado State, Wyoming, Reno... heck even making it down to Baylor, UT, and Texas A&M as the road part of home-and-homes could be huge for improving our Non-Con schedule. I wouldn't mind going 9-4, 8-5, or even 7-6 with that kind of a schedule.

    +1

    Time to nut up or shut up

    TewaWildcaT

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