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with those guys on the wings... and the bigs that they have... Wow. Bruins are going to be a lot better next year than they were this past year. That's gotta be a top 5-10 recruiting class for UCLA. Good news for the Pac-12

well, if he gets cleared to play...

We beat them twice......and Howland has had busts, problematic players, transfers, and lottery picks just like Miller and Arizona. You make no sense saying Howland can evaluate talent and character better than miller. Where does that even come from? You irritate the crap out of me with your nonsensical comments!

Egad, winey, I don't even know (get it?) where to start.......

Are you off your meds?

That has to be the case Tewa because anybody that follows college basketball as closely as WK does would have to pick up at least some knowledge somewhere along the way.

Yeah Howland has been far better at evaluating character than Miller. WTF are YOU talking about.

LOL but they may kill us next year but Howland has had more busts and transfers then Miller. OF course Miller is also 5-3 vs Ben Howland despite everything.

2012 2-1
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Not quite sure why Arizona fans have suddenly lost faith in Brandon Ashley, Grant Jerrett and Kaleb Tarczewski but it seems like our fans our doubting their Top 10 national status. liver97 isn't the only one, I've been reading comments from all levels of fans for months now. I wouldn't let the misses of Turner and Sidiki blur your opinions of this 2012 Class. I've said this before, all four have great work ethics, are studious, and most importantly have tremendous character. They're not going to allow themselves to lose IMO, especially with a pissed off and motivated Solomon Hill playing in his final season.

If UCLA lands Tony Parker, IMO, they'll jump Arizona in the national rankings. If Kentucky lands Anthony Bennett they'll have the #1 class in the country, dropping Arizona from 1 to 3.

I'm happy that UCLA landed Shabazz. Arizona will be fine, and personally I'm sick and tired of watching crappy Pac-12 basketball. As stated, there's no way in hell a 23-win Arizona team, or even last year's Washington Huskies, should have missed the NCAA Tournament. The Conference needs to again start landing the nation's best, specifically protecting its elite west coast players and keeping them in conference.

UCLA is the clear conference favorite next season as others suggest. That said, Josh Smith is no guarantee and all it takes is one player to absolutely destroy team chemistry. I can already see a rift between Shabazz (work ethic) and Smith (no work ethic) that could tear the team apart if Smith doesn't shape up and get his act together.

Regardless, having UCLA and Arizona in the top 5 recruiting classes in the same year we move to the new Pac-12 TV deal is a very positive thing for the conference.

The play of our recruits during the all star events was pretty horrific. It has reinforced the reasnable idea that they all have great potential but they may not be super stars as freshman. I like UCLA's class because the guys are ready to play from day one. Even Jordon Adams is since he only has to come in and knock down some 3's. Also I think Larry Drew is going to be a heck a pg this year for them. Long term Arizona's class will be better for the 2012 UCLA's class will have a bigger impact.

It's because we heard the same exact stuff about Knat, Bejerano, Sidiki Johnson, Nick Johnson & Josiah Turner.

Look at the guard thing - Momo and Bejarano were so immensely talented that they were going to take all the minutes and Blav and Fogg wuld likely have to transfer, then it was clear that Mayes would supplant Momo an then JT would supplant Mayes and now York is going to be that much better.....but the simple fact is Fogg and BLav are better (more reliable & more productive) than all of these idiots. Mayes was hurt - I'm not calling him an idiot.

People thought we were going to the final four with our recruiting class form last year and we didn't even make the tournament. 1/2 the damn class left. Miller is batting like .187 in evaluating talent, character, future productivity and retention.

If just 1 of the 6 incoming guys has a truly productive freshmen year, that will be an improvement over the past two years. If we end up with big man who can average more than 1.1 points per game as a junior in this class, we'll have taken a giant leap forward. Hell if any of them even make it to their Junior year, we'll be doing better than we are right now. So yes, the future is full of hope. The NCAA tournament is probably too much to hope for though. Once every three years is still pretty good.

Where? When? The only 5-star recruit on your list was Turner. You have to understand that a Top 100 doesn't mean every kid within the top 100 is a surefire producer as a freshman. There's levels and grades within the rankings that help fans try and figure out a prospect's production level as a true freshman at the high and mid-major levels.

As for bona fide studs, there's about 3-5 players per class. Once outside the Top 10 prospects, the predicted contribution/immediate impact of those players drops significantly. Not one of Arizona's recruits under Miller has been a Top 10 prospect until now.

As for MoMo, he did start as a sophmore and lead Arizona to the Elite Eight as a sophomore, right? At least that's how I remembered it. As for Mayes, he was a 3-star recruit, plus he's been injured since the Pac-12 Tournament in his freshman season.

*I can't even comment on Fogg and B-Lav because I wouldn't know where to start. Fine college players and deserve our respect.

Howland went to those final 4's before Miller got to Arizona. Miller took a small school to the elite 8 before he got to Arizona! He enherited a mess of a situation at Arizona due to the fallout of Lute Olson. He went to the elite 8 last year for crying out loud! Miller is considered a top tier coach, by not only the media but his peers as well. You are the ONLY person ive heard that thinks poorly of sean miller. He is still a young coach whose best years are ahead of him. Go hang out with your daughter and be sun devil fan.

OMG Gary, you are an incredibly patient person! I don't know how you do it but you should write a book or something.